Date of Declaration of Independence Discussion
The United States of America
July 4th, 1776 5.10pm [17:10]?, Philadelphia, PA 39N57 75W09
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Horoscope for the USA: 4th July 1776 5.10pm Philadelphia, PA

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Robert Currey, 2013
DT at 10:47 on 05 July
One of the problems is that the astrologers are obviously not aware that the actual independence (or rather declaration/resolution thereof) is on the morning of July 2, 1776. The 4th was merely the day it was publicized.

After voting for independence on July 2, Congress turned its attention to the declaration. Over several days of debate, Congress made a number of alterations to the text, including adding the wording of Lee's resolution of independence to the conclusion. The text of the declaration was approved by Congress on July 4 and sent off to be printed.

John Adams wrote his wife Abigail on July 3:

The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports,

Robert Currey at 11:50 on 06 July
Astrologers have long debated the date and time of the founding of the United States. A few agree with you and other constitutional historians. They work from a chart for July 2nd 1776 – the date of the vote for independence. These astrologers generally use a time of 4pm based on the arrival of Caesar Rodney from DE.
However, many more astrologers use July 4th for various reasons:
1.The Declaration of Independence was finalized, engrossed, allegedly signed and arguably first printed on 4th. The historical significance of this event was immense:

a.As Adams explained to his wife on 3rd July ‘You will see in a few days a Declaration setting forth the Causes which have impelled Us into this mighty Revolution and the Reasons which will justify it in the sight of God and Man’

b.The French required a legal, signed Declaration in order to recognize and form an official alliance with the new nation. [BTW I was told this & do you have any knowledge of this?]

c. Without a formal ceremony of a coronation, which had been the marker for the founding of nations in the past, the Declaration provided a formal document justifying and proclaiming independence to the world.

2. Astrologers have traditionally worked with a symbolic date rather than one that is arguably strictly historical. Nick Campion in ‘The Book of World Horoscopes’ writes that “The Declaration… is a profound expression of the American myth, or the American dream as it is commonly known”.

3. As 4th July has become “America’s birthday” in the consciousness of almost everyone around the world, this date has added significance for astrologers. In the same way, there are many charts for the United Kingdom, but most astrologers use the coronation of William in London in 1066 as the birth chart. One reason is that 1066 is a date embedded in the national consciousness.

4.Lastly, the least objective argument, but most personally compelling for an astrologer, is that I and many other astrologers find that the Sibly chart for 5.10pm on 4 July 1776 resonates with significant events such as 911 in the history of the USA.

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